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Photographer Kiyoshi Hori

Hamaribito is a photographer, Kiyoshi Hori. In the first half of the 1990s, he studied at ICP (International Photo Center) in NY and then worked in NY. After returning to Japan, he performs magazines, advertising, and artists based on his own work production. We asked Mr. Hori, who has a rare experience, such as shooting legendary artists such as Allen Ginsberg, in his lifetime, about his shooting episodes and life views.

━ How did you decide to be a photographer?

Hori -san (Hori): Originally, I didn't want to be a photographer. I was interested in the photo itself when I was 19, but at that time I didn't want to shoot magazines and ads at all. At that time, I often played in Harajuku, but there were many people who worked in place, and it was a time when I was helping.

I was carrying a manuscript at a graphic designer, but at that time I met a photo book and photo magazines such as LIFE, and that triggered I went to buy a camera on a holiday.

At that time, there were some photographers who were impressive, and the photos of Canadian photographers, Usaf Carche, have always been in my mind.
In the photo book, Churchill and Hemingway are listed, but I remember that I was wondering why I was able to take pictures of old great people.
At that time, I suddenly felt impulsive, saying, "I want a picture of this person." So seven years later, I decided to take a picture.

━ That's amazing. How did you decide to have your longing photographer shoot?

Hori: I thought, "How to do photos in Japan in earnest?" Suddenly, I thought it would be better if I had a respectful person take a picture. When I was wondering if I could get somebody, a Japanese friend who lives in Ross asked, "I know. And I think it was two weeks later, but I was told, "Please come to NY."

So, for the time being, how much was the shooting, one photo of the baked, one, but it was a very expensive price for me in my 20s. But I remember that I got a ticket to the United States and jumped on an airplane shortly after hesitation, "It's worth it!"

When I went to NY and called the contact information I was listening to, I got a grandfather with a different accent from the United States, so that? Did you make a mistake? I was about 80 years old at that time.

So when I arrive at the studio, I'm nervous.
Because there is a photographer in front of you who have been dealing with people who appear in fairy tales such as Churchill of World War II. So, when I looked at myself in front of the mirror, I said, "Oh, the beard is growing ...".
Then he lent me a shaving, "What if I shave?" (Laughs).

In the shooting, there was only one assistant, and the lighting was decided, and the shooting began, but the person himself was soothed or hugged.

Interestingly, Carshe has been talking all the time during shooting. So there is a moment of silence, and the index finger is set up near the mouth and shoots with Kasha. And the story resumed again, but the tempo is getting faster and faster.
"What is your professional?" Or "I took Helen Keller around the same time in March 1948."

At that time, I was 26 years old, and I was nervous and nervous, but I knew, "Is it like this?"
After Helen Keller, Ms. Thompson called Martha Graham and visited the studio the next day, and the shooting continued while teaching many legends. He used a large camera, even though he was old, and took a picture while standing for 2 hours. I was impressed by the way of shooting.

I had seen an article that wrote him with Churchill earlier, but the content was an episode that Karsh broke the churchill cigar and offended.
After shooting, I asked everyone at a nearby restaurant while eating chicken pot pie and asked, "Is that true?"
"The shooting location is 15 minutes of shooting time in the Ottawa parliamentary hall. Churchill came in while holding a cigar. So I took the cigar and returned to the camera and pressed the shutter. Then. On the way home, Churchill said, "Karsh -kun, you will be a man who silently barks." This episode was true.

━ The ability to act is amazing. What happened after that?

Hori: After moving to NY, I went to a photo school and started a photographer who started running in NY. Friends who used to play in the past and children who were editing fashion magazines were gaining experience and getting a little bigger, and those children gave me work. But I didn't get that much money, so I was living by selling photo books and old books that I had a lot.
I've been watching photo books and magazines since my teens, and when I look at "VOGUE", I learn most of the photographers, and I think "Harper's Bazaar" is an interesting magazine.

However, even if I saw them and gained knowledge, I didn't know what to shoot myself, and "?"
So I realized that it would be more interesting to go to "ideas" rather than technology.

I see. So I heard that the poet Allen Ginsberg was photographed in NY, but what was the background?

Hori: I like Allen Ginsberg when I was in high school.
There is a collection of poems in a used bookstore, and for high school students, used books are expensive, so I went and browsed several times. So, when I thought, "Let's buy today," the bookstore talked and introduced me to various other poets books.

The house policy was not to read Yukio Mishima, and when I was told, it was fun to read Hisoijiso and I was so excited to read it. At school, it is treated as a "dangerous guy", but on the contrary, I think that is good. Read it with Hisoijiso during class. (lol)

So I read Ginsberg and thought it was interesting. At that time, there was no stereotypes that would disturb the judgment, such as adult slangs, and came in quickly. After coming out of Nagoya in Tokyo, he learned that there was a reading of Ginsberg poetry, and said, "This has no choice but to go." At the venue, a celebrity that everyone knew was sitting nearby.
After reading, the distance to Ginsberg was about 50 meters, but it was an unforgettable experience that "Raw Ginsberg is in front of me."

So, as I mentioned earlier, I think it was within a week after moving to NY, but at that time there was a newspaper that contains live information on "New York Times", where "Allen Ginsberg / Poetrey Reading". I found the word. I didn't know that I was doing such an activity, but I went to the church at the venue and took about four photos quietly. That was the first.

━ At first, are you secretly pasha at the reading session?

Hori: At that time, there is no head for permission. That's why I got a good photo, but even if I just took it, I didn't want to announce it somewhere. After that, it's a pursuit. I went to a recitation several times, and it seemed like I took a picture of it and went home.

One day, he knew that Ginsberg would have a two -day meditation meeting with a Tibetan monk, and said, "Can I spend two days together?" It is said that about 20 people have the opportunity to talk with the person.

I participated in it and talked to me when I was having lunch at a nearby restaurant during the break time. Did you talk about moving a while ago from Japan? I wasn't nervous even when I was in front of me.

After that, there was a session again in the afternoon, and when I went with the people who went with me and announced the poem in Japanese, it was uke.
I was happy to think that the distance has been reduced without permission. On the way home, I bought a book and signed it, but when I asked, "Where is the next reading party?"

━ Of course, did you check the next one?

Hori: That's right. One of the things I remember was that the presentation of two CDs was Tower Records, and there were autograph sessions. There were many security guards, so I thought it would be careful if I was taking pictures, but Ginsberg turned here and said "He is all right". I remembered me.
And the person gave me OK in the photo. Here is the starting point of shooting him.

The signing session had a long line, but it was okay to take a picture until the end. Normally, the manager came out, and the signing session said, "It's 15 minutes away," or "If you don't buy a book, the sign is NG," but he continued to sign.

Another interesting thing was that when Bob Dylan was live, he was lined up in a column of ordinary customers, but the staff who noticed it was guided to the VIP seat. Normally, you will be able to enter lightly with the invited guests? It was the moment I felt his personality.

━ Even though it is famous, it is attracted to the natural body.

Hori: That's right. The place where I lived was close to his home, but when I met at a Japanese restaurant, I waved my hand. I've seen his reading sessions many times, but it's interesting. I think that it became my own components by experiencing many times. You say that this kind of experience will also affect the photos, and after that, I noticed that the experience of not taking a picture is part of the photo.

I think people will be manipulated in words just by listening to ideological stories. I thought it might be a little irritable. After a while, the perspective may change.

I see. Later, as a photographer, I heard that NY took photos of various artists, such as Dennis Hopper and Busty Boys.

Hori: I was really lucky to say that I shot various things. Occasionally, I'm lucky to try it out for the time being.
Do you think so too? Sometimes you are lucky and sometimes run away. So, I'm not particularly conscious of anything.

At the end, he is now returned to Japan and has been active as a photographer, such as advertising and magazines, but when is it worthwhile?

Hori: That's all for all shooting. It's fun when you receive a shooting request, but it's a type that makes you afraid after receiving it. Isn't that the case when you were a child? I don't feel pain unless I get stabbed by an insect. You don't know that you'll be angry if you break a cup before you are aware of it, right? I think the shooting site is waiting for such a thing. So it's fun, including scary.

Favorite1
IVY shirt

Hori: There are a favorite type of shirt that I have been buying since high school or college, and some are already tattered but cannot be thrown away.
There was a clothes shop that I took care of in high school, and I taught me a book called "TAKE IVY", which was cool.
There were many ivy fashion in the 1960s, and I often bought old clothes and dead stock.
I can't get out of here, so I can't change the bass. I was reading hard to read "Trad Old", which I often wrote in the magazine "MEN'S CLUB", but later met him.

I wore a paisley pattern button -down shirt in the 60's and a slim slacks of tapered. Then the teacher said, "It's not real, this." I think I'm lucky to meet someone who has always respected it, and I was happy that the teacher said it was real. In the style that I have been doing as my style for a long time, and if there is a year that seems to be bad from fashion, there are years when I like it. Regardless of the flow of society, it is a stance of wearing it all the time because you like it.
It's a feeling of repetition of a year since I have never graduated from this style since that time.

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Notebook

Hori: It was a notebook I received, but originally there was a logo on embossed, but it was erased with a black nail polish. There are many things to use at the edge, and all the clothes you are wearing today are somehow.

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Decompose the machine

Hori: When I was a child, I was often said to be a destructive person at home (laughs), but I like to disassemble the machine and it's pleasure. This may be my favorite now. In the mid -thirties, I remembered this thrill and became a destroyer again. Isn't it exciting to be able to disassemble and see the contents?

I tried to disassemble it in various ways, but I sometimes disassembled Bang & Olufsen. There were quite a few things that did not decompose and returned, but once you decompose and understand the contents, you will want to go to the following. I can drive in various thoughts with such gender.

The interesting thing is that the machine is honest, unlike humans. If you can find a bad place, it will solve it immediately. It will be a thing if a human is used, and it will be garbage if it breaks and is relieved. Like the photos, it's just a paper if you leave it. I like that kind of thing.

Hori: I've been using it for about 2 years. My friend told me, "It's cool in a white wallet." When I ordered, I wasn't lost in the design.
It looks like you want to move with the same feeling as taking a picture, I want you to make it like this.

If the wallet base is white, the thread wants to be gray. Then you should change the inside color.

When looking into the camera, the subject is similar to the feeling of listening to the movement.
It is very important to listen. I don't know where you are listening, what are you listening to the world or what?
I feel that this feeling is still leading to work.

Hori: When you come to the Brooklyn Museum, it will maintain the moment you give your wallet, I haven't asked. (lol)
Because it is a white wallet, it gets dirty, but it gives out various tools and do it silently. Looking at this, it was interesting to say, "This person is strange (laughs)." I'm happy, like this.
Brooklyn's favorite is this.

I also like to see the leather craftsman Kusagaya maintaining, and it is interesting to use the tools and are very used to it. By having your wallet touched by hand, you can understand everything that you are not using it here. In a sense, he is also a wallet doctor.